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Today's Guardian plays host to a fun slug-fest on the subject of modern classical music.

In the anti corner, Joe Queenan, on typically trenchant form, lays into modern music, which he takes to be almost everything post-Schoenberg. His basic points seem to be that audiences don't really like modern compositions and only endure them in order to get to the Romantic warhorse further down the bill; that most modern compositions seem to be written to annoy the audience; and that he, Joe Queenan, doesn't really like them and would much rather be listening to Haydn.

Tom Service, comes out in favour, pointing out that many of Queenan's points don't really hold up to scrutiny. He notes that the set of compositions held up as being loathed by audiences have almost nothing in common other than being post-Rite of Spring and that Queenan has failed to notice the predominance of 20th century music in the concert hall. Naturally, Service gives Queenan's argument from personal experience very short shrift indeed.

While I think that Queenan gets some things right — the sense of smug, superior, ignorance that pervades certain classical music audiences, for example — I think he's wrong to write off all classical music written after 1913. And while Service may be right that the Barbican is packed out for modern stuff, I suspect that the situation outside London is rather different. For example, Warwick Arts Centre used to run a pretty good classical program — this year's seemed to me to be a bit thin, but that might be because Butterworth Hall is being refurbished — but with a heavy emphasis on Mozart operas, Haydn symphonies and Romantic concerti.

So, as ever, valid points on both sides...

Contemporary music

Date: 2008-07-11 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iancr77.livejournal.com
I think the reason why a lot of people dislike contemporary classical music is that they simply have a different idea about what music is. Makes me think of Charles Ives' father, who used to encourage the young Ives to sing tunes with the accompaniment played in the wrong key, to 'stretch our ears'. Most people just haven't had their ears stretched (harmonically, especially).

Btw, sorry for random comment from unknown person - how I came to be reading your blog is a moderately long story... Been doing so for a while, though, and always find it interesting.

Re: Contemporary music

Date: 2008-07-13 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sawyl.livejournal.com
I think you're right: there's definitely something about an unexpected sound-world — getting Ives' Holidays Symphony when you're expecting Brahms' 3rd — that causes people to recoil in horror. And the idea that modern classical music is in some way uniquely difficult might well be tied in with Queenan's argument that much supposed knowledge about music is actually knowledge about musical history, so when people can't get an immediate handle on how a piece works despite all that they know about musical history, they decide that it's too hard to be worth the trouble.

And as to comments, don't feel that you need to apologies for chipping in with something. New perspectives, ideas, criticisms, brickbats etc are always a welcome distraction...

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